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Second Generation of Integrated Graphics from NVIDIA: GeForce 6150 and GeForce 6100

Started by: Rza | Date 10/27/05 07:33:05 PM

Comments: 62 | Last Comment: 01/29/08 04:39:41 PM

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First off, let me say that i find this a biased review but it's normal for Xbit because you guys prefer nVidia.

Couple of mistakes on page 5.
nForce MCP doesn't have HDA. It is AC97.
It has 'High Definition' AC97 audio and that's not the same as HDA.
Xpress200 has 2 pixel pipes not 4. And it has 0 vertex shaders. It uses the cpu for vertex processing.

Then you use a ECS motherboard as comparison. I think anybody in this world knows that those are one of the worst performing boards you can buy. Why didn't you take the MSI RS482M4? That one has better performance, DVI and tvout.

About the SB450. I know it's not perfect in any way but i can tell you one thing. It has ass kicking serial ata performance. Better than nVidia. It's USB is working, only slower. You don't have to mix that up. And that's only important for people with external hd's. I think sata performance and HDA are more important than USB. Even without Sata2 and NCQ i find the sata of the SB450 working faster. (tested myself). Ofcourse the ULI is a better chose.

I really wouldn't advice the 6100/410 over the Xpress200. The 6150/430 has an edge but the 6100/410 really doesn't. Because the 6100/410 has lower functionality compared to the Xpress200.

[Posted by: Rza | Date: 10/27/05 07:33:05 PM]

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OMG intergraded graphics set outscored my fx 5200...
I REALLY need to upgrade.

[Posted by: FlameAlpha | Date: 10/27/05 08:05:09 PM]

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The only thing that I didn't like was the availability of several products you mentioned (At least in the USA through online stores).

1. I still can't find a Sempron 939 that is not in a pre-built system

2. I can find Motherboards with the 6100 for sale. In fact, I can find several including a Biostar and a Gigabyte for the 939 platform, and those two plus ASRock for 754-pin systems. The Gigabyte is the only one with the 430 chipset.

[Posted by: Moo | Date: 10/27/05 08:37:26 PM]

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I think when looking at the in game performance (the real benchmarks, not the fake ones [biased]) I see that the X200 performance is on par or better than nvidia.
It's much older, and extremely lowered clock. I would say it's an ati victory, and not like you have said on page 14 that it's an nvidia victory.

[Posted by: Kaz | Date: 10/28/05 05:54:26 AM]

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Just curious as to wether you used the new BIOs for the Xpress200 board, as Anandtech's review was updated with some new BIOs (I think they had the MSI RS480 939 board) supposedly supplied by ATI, which improved performance signifcantly for the IGP X200.

[Posted by: Cow187 | Date: 10/28/05 04:55:09 PM]

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But that doesn't represent the performance at the time!

If you ask for a custom tuned driver for ATI, you must do the same for Nvidia.
Then it would be fair to say something about it. If you have on that has a tweaked driver, and
the other doesn't, it WILL skew the results to favour one over the other!

The one thing that bothers me about Xbit's and a majority of benchmarks out there is that
they're using expensive CPUs like dual-core on a budget mobo.

How is that a true representation of what people will buy?
Where did your Socket 939 Sempron go?

[Posted by: 2542 | Date: 11/02/05 11:04:04 PM]

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i agree.

seems like all the testing places will review a cheap motherboard that cost under a $100, and run all the benchmarks using a top-of-the-line processor that cost ten times the price of the mobo!

it's even more rediculous when they are reviewing INTEGRATED GRAPHICS! i am thinking they must not be allowed to test the cheap graphics unless they use a screaming fast, very expensive cpu, because integrated graphics rely on the cpu so much, so it makes the scores look as good as possible.

i'd like to see them test IGPs using them the way they will be used in real life, with a 3000+, or cheaper.

[Posted by: GL1100 | Date: 11/08/05 10:53:56 AM]

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I agree totally. If they are going to test a budget integrated motherboard then they should be using either be using a very cheap processor on it, like one of the 939 semprons (they do exist, saw one at tigerdirect) or an Athlon 3500+ at the most. If they are using something more expensive it should be with the specific purpose of keeping down power consumption (and thus space/cooling requirements), like for use in a home theater pc, and there should be measurements showing the power consumption of a system using each board at idle and doing relevant tasks such as video playback.

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