A lot of hype sorrounds the AMD products recently. Barcelona will be a big dissapointment thats for sure. Just like their 2900XT.

AMD is teh new SUCK.
VIVA LA INTEL VIVA LA NVIDIA

Mr. BonBon has always been teh suck. Word.

This article only shows that the real processors are done by AMD.

Clock to clock, and dollar to dollar will be good enough for some.

Oh my, bashing AMD seems to be the new trend lately.Something Mr. BonBon is doing here. But you know, assuming something will suck just because you heard about that somewhere is pretty stupid... time will tell but I am sure K10 will not suck. Maybe it will not overtake Penryn, maybe it will blow it away, lets wait and see.

Hm. I always thought each core would have been able to adjust its V-core independently. So I was wrong.
p.s. The conclusions are the only part of the article I read. :|

Mr.B's dad, thanks for the laugh :D

I wonder what two scenarios fastpunk conveniently forgot to mention, take off your green tinted glasses.

Can't wait to see some benchmarks going to head to head with Intel.

contents aside, i was kind of amazed by the poor quality of the writing, missing words, poorly formulated sentences.... some parts almost look like someone took a chinese article and put it through a translation engine

as for the contents, its nice to see some insight into what AMD is doing with barcelona (IT IS NOT K10!!), but untill the benches fall, all this means pretty much nothing

2006...

Where AMD used to have two design sites, now the sites total five – two in Austin, one in Sunnyvale, one in Boston and one in India, said Chuck Moore, AMD senior fellow, who delivered the opening keynote address at the In-Stat Spring Processor Forum here Tuesday [5/17/2006].

“We do have multiple generations under design now,” he said.

AMD said the new architecture would be available in the first half of 2007.



2007...

" AMD promises to introduce its new quad-core processors with K10 micro-architecture in the end of August – beginning of September this year. "

And what two scenarios have I so conveniently forgot to mention Brendan?

That green tint is darker then I imagined fastpunk, maybe it won't overtake Penryn and or it will be blown away by Penryn.

Hell yeah. Maybe will be the no 1 again:D.

Joz says:

this thing looks like its gona suck for overclockers ane other hardcore people. imo ,

1. the way it looks like k10 clocks each core up/down is gona make overclocking a bitch, unless it can be disabled.

2. it looks like the branch prediction is gona be low...not a good thing. I think they should work on that more then dynamic core clocking.

3. I have concluded, that the K10, may be able to hold out IPC wise agianst the current Conore...but I doubt its gona be the killer that AMD hopes for. if im wrong, im wrong, but AMD, either get it into the market and 3rd party testers, or I suggest you work on improving the K8 like Intel improved the on the Pentium III to make Core.

Brendan, mate. Read my post again, but slowly this time so you can think about what you are reading. I said: "Maybe it will NOT overtake Penryn, maybe it will blow it away, lets wait and see." So that means that K10 could be better than Penryn, or it could be worst. Saying that makes me a fanboy? Maybe your glasses are a bit too dark...

wow i've never seen so much FUD and outright bs posted after an article. Its sad that some of you actually believe the crap you are posting.

Why does it strangely feels like R600 launch all over again?

Late to the party and no benchmark leaks, problems with ramping up chips with high enough clock to beat the competition, and resorting to launch a product that cannot beat the competitiions top performer instantly

Yea I have seen that picture of that rig AMD showed off with what they claim was a barcelona quad core but unless they have those kinda chips in volumes its not gonna help them keeping people away from buying intel quads that are alreary running at high clocks/can be overclocked over 3GHZ.

Remember back when Conroe was about to launch? Intel leaked benchies of their new design all over the net. Yes that is right when you are about to have a winner on the market you do that kind of thing to win over enthusiasts and keep them from buying your comptetion's product, specially when you have been beaten down by the competition for a good while and need to win the customers'/enthusiaists' trust back. Kinda like what Intel had to put their P4's end of life bad reputation behind them and like how now AMD needs to do the same to win over potential custs.

Dont you find it strange that AMD is not leaking barcelona's great performance numbers even when they are awfully close to the release date? At least for the equally clocked Barcelona vs Core 2 Qs?

To me seems like dejavu. Exactly like R600. So much hope and high expectations but in the end it couldnt score "a sound and clear win" although much was promised and much trust everyone had because of the architectural achievments its design had.

But I am not certainly hoping for something like that to happen. Last chance AMD dont waste it. Though I guess not much can be changed at this stage before the initial launch.

Re:Myself: Post vanished or something >_>

Yes...->AMD

Re:Myself:twice> my post keeps vanishing..
Yes...->AMD, AMD released their own benchmarks, THOSE MEAN NOTHING. Remember Intel's hype over its Core 2's? Every one was skeptical untill 3rd parties proved that the Athlon X2 had to be 400-600mhz faster to equal the Core 2? And then showed how overclockable the Core 2's where and ten days latter people where shooting up all over the place with 3+ghz'ed E6600's and 3.5ghz X6800's and other overclocks. And since almost any Core 2 can hit 3+ghz on air.

When AMD can get k10 to 3rd parties who can prove AMD's own scores, THEN I will pay some attention.

Fastpunk, my bad I retard. Lions of Zion I just want some trusted review sites to get their hands on AMD's latest and greatest and compare it to Intel best whomever wins is the champ for a few months .

Great Article.. Keep up the good work..

JIGAR