[1] in the HTPC world ATi/AMD is way ahead of nvidia
[2] their prices are pretty much competing considering the performance differences. Also, the timing of their products is improving compared to 2006 and early 2007, Example, HD 3850 which whooped the 8600GT(s) a$$
[3] their budget motherboards/chipsets are just awesome, full HD playback support through an on board video card, way ahead of both, intel and nvidia.
[4] their dx 10.1 was proven efficient and really something, check assasins creeds late reviews and GFX card comparison @ hardocp

My point:
whoever is not paying attention to what ATi/AMD is doing/producing right now, should pay more attention. Sure, their CPU line for desktop users was proven useless for more than 8 months now, but in the graphics field and HD playback technologies and being the first to the market that delivers directx 10.1 real performance advantage with 55nm process technology, i'd say ATi is far away from being forgotten anytime soon.

P.S:
Right now i got an intel processor + nvidia video card, but i am keeping my mind/eyes open for what these guys at ATi/AMD are doing, waiting for a good opportunity for an upgrade into the ATi/AMD direction.

nVidia are rather high and mighty themselves at the moment. But I don't think you were around during the FX period when ATI did whoop their arse rather hard. What happened during then...practically they were shitting their pants...

If ATI does drop the proverbial bombshell like that again on nVidia, they'll probably blame it on you.

WORD!!

but seriously, bad mouthing competitive companies?!! VERY amateur and unprofessional.

Yes, this is mean and unprofessional. I never had an ATI card (I was always a little biased towards Nvidia for some reason), but I hate the arrogant behavior Nvidia is showing lately, and I really wish ATI would teach them a lesson - the same way Intel tought AMD a lesson when they started getting too cocky. Or, maybe, Intel will be the one to teach Nvidia a lesson this time too...

pfft... intel was really fukked wen nvidia proved dat havin a better GPU wid a low end CPU is much better than better CPU vs Low end CPU........

K Horo,

My experience is within th elast 10 years. Recently ATI had some great products like the x1900 and 1800 series, even though they have been around longer then nvidia. Ati focused on image and color, while Nvidia is for the fastest game. AMD FX line was good for a 2-3 years, but looking at the long history of Intel, there really is no competition. Grant I have 2 built in nvidia with my laptop, and one nvidia on a PS3. So here is where the other 3 were nvida. My first nvidia was a TNT, Ati was still in 2D mode and 3dfx was losing steam. The second card was Geforce3 which ended 3DFX and the voodoo line and ATI has nothing even close then. Recently last year in 07, Nvidia came out with the 8800 when ATI was too slow to get a DX10 card out and only had the X1900 series. AMD has no answer for the Intel quad core on performance or pricing last year. Only the FX line like 3 years ago was a little better then the P4, but all the other pentium series and Duo Core sereis really had no competition. It always seem like AMD had a chip like a generation behind Intel except for a 2-3 years span in the early 2000.

ummm u 4got 2 mention dat the ATi X1950 XTX is considered the king of DX9 gfx cards and frankly so nvidia really fukked up wid the G9x series GPUs confusing every1....

i can back this statement up.... i live in the middle east and the irony is dat all the hype over here is about ATi.... sum ppl havnt even heard abt nvidia....