Following Intel Corp.’s release of Intel Pentium 4 processors 600-series as well as yet another lineup of Intel Xeon DP, the world’s largest computer maker Dell Inc., who exclusively use Intel’s microprocessors in its products, said the company does not have plans to introduce systems powered by chips from Advanced Micro Devices.
Dell Says “No” to AMD
According to a report from Reuters, speaking to investors at the Goldman Sachs Technology Symposium in Phoenix, Arizona, Dell CEO Kevin Rollins said that Dell had been considering turning to AMD as a second source of central processing units (CPUs). However, at this point the company is no longer mulling to use processors from Advanced Micro Devices in its computers.
Mr. Rollins said his company’s customers and key Wall Street analysts had begun demanding that Dell start offering PCs based on AMD chips after desktop processors from the latter not only beat Intel Corp.’s Pentium 4 in terms of performance in a lot of applications, but also offered features, including 64-bit capability and power-saving technology that were absent in Intel’s products. AMD’s Opteron processors also managed to beat Intel’s Xeon chips in server and workstation benchmarks. Intel had not had a response to AMD Athlon 64 for about 1.5 years and a number of customers could consider switch to CPUs from AMD.
“We believe that Intel has responded… That is now beginning to put customers more at ease that they don’t need to make a shift (to AMD),” Kevin Rollins is reported to have said.
AMD supplies processors to other leading makers of computers, namely HP, IBM, Sun and others. But for AMD any additional revenues from its profitable processor business are badly needed to compensate the company's flash business.
Former Plans Denied
“My guess is we’re going to want to add that [AMD] product line in the future…They’ve been getting better and better. The technology is better. In some areas they’re now in the lead on Intel. That is what is interesting us more than anything,” said Kevin Rollins, Dell’s CEO in an interview with a web-site in late 2004.
Historically Dell has been using microprocessors only from Intel Corporation. However, with the availability of AMD Athlon processors in 1999 and 2000, rumours about Dell’s presumable intentions to get AMD-based computers on the market became very intense, but the real condition of the things is that there are still no computers from Dell with AMD chips inside. As a major customer of Santa Clara, California-based Intel, Dell reportedly receives some favours from its main chip partner, therefore, this is quite natural for Dell not to use processors from other makers. Moreover, being a company concentrated mostly on corporate and SOHO markets Dell once said that the demand for AMD central processing units from its clients is not too strong. Now the company cites AMD’s inability to supply the PC giant enough chips for desktops and believes it is more likely to deploy AMD’s chips into server, workstation and gaming desktop spaces.
However, one of the issues for Dell to switch to AMD was the latter’s presumable inability to supply enough microprocessor for the PC giant.
“If we basically sucked up all of AMD’s [manufacturing] capacity it would not be enough. They don’t have enough capacity for us to use them on the desktop. For us, fundamentally, AMD is much more interesting in the server, workstation or gaming arenas,” Mr. Rollins explained.
"That's looking like ‘No’… For a while it was looking like ‘Yes’,” Mr. Rollins said of Dell's decision not to use AMD.
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This is stupid, why is it even news?! Dell will go AMD only if AMD matches the discounts Intel hands out, and anyone with a braincell will know such a thing never going to happen. I am tired of "news" about Dell and AMD, every 6 months a new thing comes up, Dell might use AMD, and couple months later Dell releases infromation about how much AMD chips suck.
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Posted by: kodiak81

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Date: 02/23/05 01:24:36 PM]
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Every time Dell wants further discounts from Intel they put out a press release that they are now going to use AMD
Then they get their Intel discounts & all of a sudden AMD is no longer good enough
If X-bit is going to continue to post Dell press releases they should read
DELL TO STICK WITH UNDERPERFORMING, OVERHEATING INTEL DUE TO BACKDOOR INTEL DISCOUNTS
or
DELL CUSTOMERS LOOSE OUT AGAIN
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Posted by: RAISTLIN

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Date: 02/23/05 05:03:55 PM]
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FUCK DELL and FUCK BIG FETT INTEL OUTZIDE!
:-) Yeeaaah
AMD Forever
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Posted by: Black_Arrow_CZE

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Date: 02/23/05 05:22:13 PM]
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I'm sure its a strategic decision, supply, timing, pricing all playing a part. My instinct tells me in a market where what the consumer wants rules how business is done, the decision to not offer what the customer desires is a strategic error.
Let's examine what they had to say. AMD can't produce enough chips for us. Well that seems to indicate that if they did offer AMD chips the demand would be so great for that offering that Dell would be backlogged. So why not sell something you excpected to have such demand? Likely Dell is trying to pressure AMD into better pricing or preference on product shipments. If AMD is selling all the chips it can produce or close to it, then likely as not AMD isn't interested in any such deals.
Give it a year and some good market growth and you'll see Dell probably start spinning a new tale again. For now, neither producer really needs the other that badly. Plenty of companies produce quite good AMD machines. Buy them, and be happy :)
$.02
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Posted by: Anemone

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Date: 02/23/05 08:51:09 PM]
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They are crazy. A friend of mine said six months ago that the new P4 sucks. And now that I have seen it really does suck.
What king of power management function is that that does allow the processor slower than 2.8 GHz a lose 5% performance if the feature is enabled? Well I know that intel want P4 on desktop and not notebook so allowing the processor go to lower speeds like 1.5Ghz could be bat to them.
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Posted by: kaz

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Date: 02/24/05 02:23:36 AM]
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You are wrong!
The problem is that the P4 at speeds like 800 Mhz would perform like a 486, while the AMD at 800Mhz runs "fast" at most tasks.
So the 2.8Ghz are minimum performance number for the P4. If this was a northwood would be like 2.4Ghz, anything lower it would suck.
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Posted by: lazy

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Date: 02/24/05 02:26:28 AM]
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Gee that's the silliest statement ever made cos the only conclusion I can get from it is that Intel's will only do for Dell on shitty mediocre kitchen recipe database computers or mail fetcher side bed slim PCs. If this man wanted to add value to Dell-Intel partnership he just did the oposite!!! 8D
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Posted by: fullgrip

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Date: 02/24/05 03:22:54 AM]
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Only the dumb masses buy dell anyway, real men build their own rigs.
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Posted by: joe blow

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Date: 02/24/05 11:00:36 PM]
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this is funny. but who cares? really, does it matter ifyou go Intel or AMD? If Intel started kicking AMD ass again, then AMD fans would be like up yours intel.
Dell should go AMD as well to get more customers and more money.
but then again, Dell has no AMD coustomers.
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Posted by: burn

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Date: 04/21/05 06:40:36 PM]
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I use both AMD and Intel and to tell you the truth, you really can't tell the difference. Seriously, when you use a computer and you know nothing about it, you cannot tell if it is AMD or Intel, even in gaming.
I think that AMD and intel should merge and become one big company to crush any opposition. I mean, wouldn't a Hyper-threading, Hyper-transport Athlon running at 3.8 GHz be great?
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Posted by: roadkill

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Date: 04/21/05 06:43:43 PM]
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Amdsucks
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Posted by: amdsucks

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Date: 04/23/05 04:12:47 PM]
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Yeah, AMD does stink. I hate AMD. Long Live Intel
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Posted by: doofbag

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Date: 04/23/05 04:13:25 PM]
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Advanced Micro Dicks can BIH for all I care about. Screw AMD and all their little friends.
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Posted by: theoonst

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Date: 04/23/05 04:14:22 PM]
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Who cares what Dell is doing ? Those that would buy a Dell dont know any better, and those that know wouldnt buy a Dell.
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Date: 07/13/05 11:17:01 PM]
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Your "Screw AMD" attitude was cute, right up to and until Intel had to start ripping off AMD 64 bit technology, and had to revise the Itanium to AMD 64 bit technologies.
Now you just look PATHETIC.
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Posted by: To all of the AMD haters

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Date: 07/13/05 11:20:41 PM]
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amd smells (2:13pm EST Fri Sep 02 2005)
Althon is Alpha. Alpha reached 1Ghz first.
K6 is NexGen.
How do they manage magazines to not cover those truth. I don't know.
Amd lies. Everything comes out is fault. they pay bechmarks prgrammers.
FYI:
For the week of June 15, 1998
The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) had earlier this year forced Intel to allow third parties to license Alpha technology after Intel came to an arrangement with Digital at the end of last year. Under that deal, Intel was forced to license that technology to AMD and others.
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Posted by: amd stinks

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hahahha amd has been spanking intel ass all year just look at the fx 60 or even fx 57 or fx 53 lol hell even all the athlon 64s out bench p4s so yea come again
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Posted by: amd.com

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Date: 02/27/06 08:03:58 PM]
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yup even amds sempron budget processer out benches intels celeron and beyond that every thing amd has on the market blows away pentium 4 hands down, bottom line, as of 2/01/06 intel does not have one chip out on the market right now that will even closely compete as far as speed and floating point rotation,
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