Intel Pentium D processor model 820 may not be compatible with at least some of the chipsets by third party designers, according to ASUS, NVIDIA and X-bit labs performance testing experience. The lowest-speed grade dual-core processor from Intel does not work properly on some of NVIDIA nForce4 Intel Edition-based mainboards, it emerged.
“Yes, ASUS P5ND2-SLI Deluxe motherboard does [support Pentium D 820 processor], but the Intel Pentium D 820 processor works only in single-core mode due to chipset limitation.,” claimed a statement over ASUSTeK Computer technology support web-site, which has been removed after the weekend.
NVIDIA’s spokesperson confirmed that the company had scrapped support for Intel Pentium D processor 820, which works at 2.80GHz, on its chipsets citing low demand for such chip from enthusiasts. NVIDIA’s nForce4 SLI Intel Edition chipsets will only support Intel dual-core processors at 3.0GHz and above, including Intel Pentium D and Intel Pentium Extreme Edition products.
“We decided not to support the lowest performance 2.80GHz dual-core at this point. We expect very limited demand in the enthusiast and gaming segment for this SKU and we decided not to spend engineering resources qualifying it for now… We support 3.0GHz and above,” said Bryan Del Rizzo.
According to internal testing of Intel Pentium D 820 chip, the product does not run stably enough on NVIDIA reference nForce4 SLI Intel Edition mainboard as well as ASUS P5ND2-SLI Deluxe mainboard. Intel Pentium Extreme Edition 840, which is also Intel dual-core desktop chip that is even more advanced, works fine on the mentioned platforms.
Intel’s first family of dual-core chips for desktops originally code-named Smithfield consists of Intel Pentium D 800-series as well as Intel Pentium Extreme Edition central processing units. Initial Intel Pentium D 800-series central processing units use 800MHz Quad Pumped Bus, integrate 2MB (1MB per core) L2 cache and utilize LGA775 form-factor. The dual-core desktop processors will be made using 90nm process technology, each processing engine will use the same architecture with the current Pentium 4 “Prescott” chip and will sport EM64T, EDB as well as Enhanced Intel SpeedStep technologies. Intel Pentium D processors will not enable Hyper-Threading technology leaving this as a prerogative of Intel Pentium Extreme Edition processor 840.
Some sources reported that Intel’s dual-core Intel Pentium D products will be relatively affordable: $241, $316 or $530 – depending on the speed-bin and model – for 820 (2.80GHz), 830 (3.00GHz) or 840 (3.20GHz) chips respectively. Intel Pentium Extreme Edition processor 840 that also runs at 3.20GHz, but with HT technology enabled, costs $999 in 1000-unit quantities and is available now from PC makers like Dell.
Intel Corp. did not comment on the news-story.
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What a joke.
"Intel Pentium Extreme Edition 840, which is also Intel dual-core desktop chip that is even more advanced, works fine on the mentioned platforms."
More advance in what?! the processor is the same, i dont call it more advance just because it's a little faster.
And i also dont think the world is made of gamers and enthusiasts.
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The 840 Extreme Edition could be called more advanced because it has HT, the other 8xx chips do not.
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No one (in is right mind) will buy extreme edition.
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I didn't claim that people would, but the quote you gave was reffering to the Extreme Edition and I was just pointing out that it does have more advanced features than the other 8xx chips, something you said it didn't.
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Gee sorry .... :)
I didnt see the post of being an Extreme Edition ;)
I tought it only exists one 840 model.
And every one talking about the AMD bad model number, look at intel!
Pentium D 820 2.8 GHz (FSB800) 2x 1 MB No HT
Pentium D 830 3.0 GHz (FSB800) 2x 1 MB No HT
Pentium D 840 3.2 GHz (FSB800) 2x 1 MB No HT
Pentium Extreme Edition 840 3.2 GHz (FSB800) 2x 1 MB HT
My point was of an D 840 being more advanced then a D 820 or D830.
Even so... i dont think i would call it (the EE) more advanced since this (HT) has been here since northwood....
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That's the crappiest thing I've heard this week!
Basically, Nforce4 won't work with Pentium-D 2.8Ghz because:
(a) There is an issue which affects stability.
(b) They assume no one is gonna buy the 2.8Ghz model! HEEELLLO?! Enthusiasts were gonna buy the low-end one and overclock!
This is another reason why I'm planning my next system on AMD solution.
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I love how Nvida tries to pass this off as no big deal."Nobody buys those anyway!" What garbage.
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that doesn't make sense,how is it able to support higher end, while it will be incapable of supporting anything lower...
did they just say..." i don't want to support the pd 2.8 damnit!!!"
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I agree, this is ridiculous. The definition of PC enthusiasts is not "one with unlimited resources." If am going dual core in the next year, it will be with the most affordable solution available. I had my sights on the 820 and this is indeed unfortunate. I hope nVidia gets the technical problem fixed before mass production of the chipset/motherboards begin. After all, as #2 said, an enthusiast will by the cheapest CPU they can and then eeek every last bit out of it with a good OC.
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