Advanced Micro Devices, the world’s No.2 maker of x86 microprocessors, last week released some details concerning its high-end gaming platform previously named 4x4. The firm now wants the technology to be called Quad-Father and says that enthusiasts with not limitless budgets will also be able to obtain an appropriate system.
AMD said that it will not only offer systems running two of its dual-core processors with system integrators, such as Alienware or VoodooPC, but will also offer bundles of two processors in one package, making the 4x4, or Quad-Father, technology available in the do-it-yourself (DIY) markets. The pricing on such bundles will start from approximately $1000, according to AMD’s Pat Moorhead.
It is currently unclear whether typical AMD Athlon 64 X2 processors, which pricing varies from $152 to $301, AMD Athlon 64 FX chips, which are usually priced in between $800 and $1100, or a new series of desktop-oriented processors will serve the Quad-Father platforms. The company at this time reviews possibilities to enable “step by step” 4x4, where end-users could get only one chip initially and then add another one some time later.
During the press conference AMD demonstrated CineBench benchmark and said that the 4x4 platform provides 80% performance benefit compared to a similar one with a single dual-core microprocessor. The company did not estimate, what the performance will be like, when two quad-core processors are plugged in.
Advanced Micro Devices needs to offer a platform for enthusiasts that offers higher performance compared to Intel’s Core 2 Extreme-based computers. With the Quad-Father AMD talks about “megatasking”, a usage environment where users play games and perform compute-demanding tasks, such as rendering or video encoding.
Pricing of final systems is also unclear.
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Yeah sure! Or maybe play HL and UT at the same time lol.
Crap...
[Posted by: wrench | Date: 08/01/06 01:11:31 AM]
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I agree with Wrench. This sounds like some Bullsh!t! For multi-tasking this rig would be a BEAST! Gaming? Hell naw... Better luck next time AMD. Bring the K8L now k? k...thx.
[Posted by: Po | Date: 08/01/06 03:57:57 AM]
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But think of the possibilities for development/test servers.
If there's 4 DIMMs per socket then that's at least 16 GB of PC6400 nonECC per system with 4 cores near 3 GHz. You can lay a nice amount of Xen/VMware virtual machines on that. Run the storage over iSCSI to a LVM array with cheap disks and you can have some nice use cases.
Not that 2 GB PC6400 DIMMs are dirt cheap yet but it'll get there.
[Posted by: Ratbert | Date: 08/01/06 05:51:50 AM]
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Hi wrench, did you hear rumours abot RHT?
"The company at this time reviews possibilities to enable “step by step” 4x4, where end-users could get only one chip initially and then add another one some time later." Is this mean RHT for 2 cores at first step and RHT for 2 dies and 4 cores finally? Pozhyviom, uvidim!
[Posted by: AMD_longtimeuser | Date: 08/01/06 06:53:25 AM]
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There are already Kentsfield engineering samples "in the wild." 12/2006 launch. And current mobo that support Core2 will also support Kentsfield quad core, I believe. So, would you rather upgrade your processor only next year to quad after running the worlds best dual core (price/performance it is...) with minimum hassle? Or buy into the marketing stunt that is '4x4'? Gee, tough choice.
[Posted by: mark1 | Date: 08/01/06 10:20:04 AM]
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Or the people who are running 4x4 upgrade to dual quad-cores :)
[Posted by: Jizzler | Date: 08/01/06 02:30:54 PM]
Sure. They can upgrade to dual quad-cores...6+ months after Kentsfield is out. If they are lucky. Kentsfield is on track for a launch before the end of this year. AMD will be lucky to even introduce 4X4 by that point. Not to mention the fact that there are Kentsfield capable motherboards on the market right now. And, can someone explain to me how 4X4 is different from dual socket Opterons on a server board? Is this really their answer to Conroe and Kentsfield?!? Yikes.
[Posted by: Dosomo | Date: 08/02/06 12:46:24 PM]
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If you can take advantage of 4-cores or even 8-cores in the future, then go for it.
Otherwise, don't even bother wasting time or money into this nonsense.
[Posted by: 4567 | Date: 08/01/06 09:44:52 PM]
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I don't get it. This is fine and dandy and all, but AMD needs to play catch-up big time. Their processors are getting their a**es waxed left and right and I don't think that releasing this technology is going to cut it in the long run. You cannot compare apples to apples with this setup, and I'm sure it will cost more than a single-processor setup from intel. Not to mention the power usage of this thing. 2000 watt power supply, anyone?
[Posted by: Eric | Date: 08/02/06 06:01:26 AM]
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Is no one here 25 or older? Back in the day you could go dual with Pentium 2's and Pentium 3's on standard chipsets.
It filled that niche for people who wanted more than a single processor but didn't need the features of the P2 and P3 Xeons with higher-end chipsets.
This is simply an option between dual-core Athlons and dual/dual-core Opterons. AMD just slapped a gimmickey label on it.
[Posted by: Jizzler | Date: 08/02/06 07:30:44 PM]
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On the Intel side, you've just about always been able to use their chipsets in SMP or UP mode. For a recent-ish example, the NCCH-DL uses the 875P chipset, which was also widely used on UP boards. On the AMD side, dual K7's required a different chipset than normal (the 762MP or MPX) as the point-to-point architecture required a northbridge with two FSBs. Dual K8's do not require any special chipset logic as the northbridge is inside the CPU die. All that is required are traces linking up the HT links of the processors.
[Posted by: Antistatic | Date: 08/02/06 08:23:25 PM]
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I'm worried about DDR-II timings. Are they gonna improve timings with these new processors? People we're getting tired of waiting!!!
[Posted by: Niko | Date: 08/02/06 08:51:39 PM]
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Kentsfield isnt the same as this tech, Kentsfield is 4 cores running through the same ram and bus. so basically the 4 cores will be bottlenecked like crazy with no bandwidth left.
AMD has done it the right way 3-4yrs ago by using their Hypertransport tech ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperTransport ) which will give the 4x4 cores its own bandwidth. it will crush Kentsfield like a old rusty tin can...
go actually read the specs before spewing Kentsfield over this news...
[Posted by: its gonna flop | Date: 08/02/06 09:01:24 PM]
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It's you that is spewing stuff out like "Kentsfield will be bottlenecked like crazy" without having any idea what the true situation is.
[Posted by: Wait and see | Date: 08/03/06 04:19:54 AM]
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"without having any idea what the true situation is."
i'm all ears.. please inform us what the true situation is then...
i have given a reason why, you on the other hand havent given any info.. except you sound like a tosser...
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