Advanced Micro Devices, the world’s second largest maker of x86 microprocessors, has been receiving criticism for the postponement of its new quad-core chips as well as chips based on the new-generation micro-architecture for months. But only now, a little less than a month ahead of the launch the firm is ready to talk about its problems.
Chief executive of AMD admitted that the highly-anticipated quad-core AMD Opteron is half a year late to market because of a variety of technical issues. At the same time, he predicts that the battle between the chip code-named Barcelona and products by Intel Corp. will be very intense this fall and world’s first single-die x86 quad-core processor will not have an advantage AMD Opteron had over its rivals.
“We’re doing something that nobody has ever done. As strong as our competitor is, they have not done a [monolith] quad-core on a chip… Every time we ran into a gotcha (a technical glitch), it created a six-week or so hole in the schedule as we went back and fixed it. We hoped we wouldn’t get many of those, but in the Barcelona case, we got more than we thought. By the time we got through fixing them all, we were six months-plus late from where we originally wanted to be,” said Hector Ruiz, chairman and chief executive of AMD, in an interview with Mercury News.
Six months delay from the original schedule not only means that the company has missed its revenue predictions, but also indicates that the chipmaker will have to compete against Intel’s products that it did not originally target with the first breed of quad-core AMD Opteron “Barcelona” offerings. As a result, the competition between the new server chips will be fierce across all aspects, including performance, scalability, power consumption, pricing, manageability, cost of ownership and so on.
“I expect us to regain position in the server market because Barcelona is a very strong product. It won’t have the huge impact Opteron had. If you remember at the time Intel had no new product (to compete against it). So it will be more challenging. What we’re anticipating is that Intel and AMD are going to be very competitive in every space going forward. We’ve become big and strong enough and credible enough that we are going to flip back and forth in leadership,” Mr. Ruiz said.
Quad-core AMD Opteron processors code-named Barcelona are based on the company’s next-generation micro-architecture and will be produced using 65nm process technology. Among the highlights of AMD’s new chips the manufacturer lists shared 2MB L3 cache, 128-bit floating point units (FPU), SSE4A instructions, support for dual-channel DDR2 memory and other innovations. The first Barcelona processors are scheduled for shipments in August with product availability in September.
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It's FAR, FAR better to resolve design issues before you launch than to sell the crap Intel, Asus, MICROSUCKS and many other companies rush out the door for the gullible sheep to buy up like crack cocaine. Intel still does not have anything but glue blobs for CPUs.
AMD has integrity which the above crowd will never have. Consumers who support unscrupulous companies who constantly ship defective goods deserve exactly what they get or don't. I vote with my wallet and I buy the best products for my company from reputable suppliers.
[Posted by: Jorge | Date: 08/22/07 05:22:41 AM]
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lol.
So what if intel glued to Core 2's to make a quad. The Quad's from intel destroyed every single CPU AMD has, even their 4x4 platform (which was also destroyed by the Core 2 Extreme.)
And as far as I know, the Core 2 itself is not a Glue job. stop being a fanboy, AMD has integrity? LOL. Did you not see how many FAKE lawsuits and investigations they tried to pull on Intel?
[Posted by: Joz | Date: 08/22/07 08:54:13 AM]
There is no such thing as a fake law suit. A suit may be filed that is preposterous, but it is still a law suit.
If you are referring to AMD's anti-monopoly suit against Intel, they have a pretty strong case from what I've seen.
Intel has already been convicted of violating anti-monopoly laws in Europe and Japan.
[Posted by: realitycheck | Date: 08/22/07 05:23:25 PM]
Integrity??! with all the delayed launches?!? the mediocre performance of current lineup?!? (e.g. R600)?!? what abut the complacency of coming up with a new product?? they should have started the work with barcelona a few years back instead of cramming up to come up with a product in time for this yearend...
You call that integrity?!?
quote: "I vote with my wallet and I buy the best products for my company from reputable suppliers."
you consider AMD to be a reputable supplier?!? this must be a joke... they can hardly supply their retail channels...
[Posted by: dudde | Date: 08/22/07 11:28:33 PM]
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I hope for his sake the market is as forgiving...
6 month late in the IC world and in this case competing against Intel is suicide.
[Posted by: huh | Date: 08/22/07 06:54:59 AM]
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but then again. this 4 core looks promising so I rally PRAY they make it through...
It's good to have competition.
I don't want to go back to 1995 where a Midrange PC costs about 2000$.
[Posted by: huh | Date: 08/22/07 07:04:26 AM]
I totally agree! Intel is improving their product cycles time and time again, while AMD shows only bad performance as of late (Quad core delay, a delayed release of the Radeon 2x00 family and even then not being able to beat nvidia...ouch!!!). Seems that recently everything is going good for Intel, and the opposite for AMD.
I really hope for a strong AMD to give Intel a run for its money, drive prices down, and push the technology forward.
[Posted by: eltoro | Date: 08/22/07 01:12:49 PM]
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Given Intel's new tick-tock cycle, AMD can barely afford to be 6 months late.
[Posted by: fl0pY | Date: 08/22/07 07:03:35 AM]
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6 months late may just be too late.
Well I guess we shall se how it performs, but while AMD will be field testing their new chip Intel has tested theirs and is pretty sure they could release chips running as high as 4GHz. It's true that the double core approach has limitations compared to a native quad core design, but it also had the advantage of being easier to manufacture and running at higher clocks stably.
Even if the per clock performance is greater on the AMD side with these new chips it will have to be significantly greater to match Intel's high clocks. From what I understand the chips AMD expects to launch will be clocked well under 3 GHz, and even if AMD gains a little advantage now this isn't the Intel of years past. Intel is working on new technology for new chips instead of sitting on their current architecture like they did with NetBurst. Either way the competition will be good for the consumer. We will just have to see if AMD is going to stick around to keep on competing. I sure hope so since I usually go with AMD.
[Posted by: Megamanx00 | Date: 08/22/07 03:39:06 PM]
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Craaaaaaap
[Posted by: zxtxtxt | Date: 08/24/07 08:04:13 AM]
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AMD has delayed the K8 for a few years. Now people criticized AMD delaying again, but this time it is a lot shorter. It best to not to rush instead make a big bang when the product is mature. A quad core is a lot more complex than double core processor. Designing a monolithic processor increases the complexity of the construction phase.
The clock speed of a processor is not a good way to compare one system and then to the next because of the performance factor. Also power consumption is on some users mind's, so the need for speed can be counter productive.
FYI, ATI was bought by AMD and it is not AMD's fault that ATI engineers can not adapt to new surroundings. Sure, there was some layoffs. Though if the funding is not there, projects will be put on hold. This is ok in the graphics industry because it is a slow business.
[Posted by: linuxnerd | Date: 08/24/07 11:17:22 PM]
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Since when did the graphics card industry slowed down?! Nvidia has a product cycle somewhere around 6-8 months... ATI can't afford to hold off projects (as you are led to believe)!
K8 wasnt delayed for a few years... AMD sold K8 for a few more years than expected... in case you've been hiding under a rock... K8 was introduced 2003... from 2003 to 2007, AMD only ramped up K8's speed and manufacturing technology... AMD was complacent during the times it had a lead over Intel... AMD could have introduced minor architectural improvements on the K8... look what happened now... AMD is cramming to get K10 out...
[Posted by: dudde | Date: 08/26/07 01:08:40 PM]
The K8 did got delayed because of a fabrication problems. There are several news articles on the internet that explains the problem. I already know that K8 is lasting three years.
Changing the core of a processor just a little will prove no performance gain and no sales gain. Intel tried doing this several times, but it got worst.
K10 was already in the design phase when K8 came out. AMD just has a slight set back.
Yes, graphic industry does slow down.
[Posted by: linuxnerd | Date: 08/30/07 12:22:45 AM]
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K10 was already in the design phase when K8 came out. AMD just has a slight set back.
You call 4+ years a slight setback?!
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Changing the core of a processor just a little will prove no performance gain and no sales gain. Intel tried doing this several times, but it got worst.
So are you saying that if AMD made some twitches on the K8 core that they would do any good?!? that depends on what kind of change they put in... if they had a good design of the core (which they did back then), small enhancements would have been beneficial...
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Yes, graphic industry does slow down.
You got any proof of that?!? read some news... graphics makers have been steadily gaining profit... that is by no means an indication that an industry slows down..
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