As those who wanted to have high-speed AMD Phenom processors ask why the chipmaker decided to delay their desired microprocessors, the maker of central processing units just claims that hardly anyone expects high-performance chips by AMD now.
Advanced Micro Devices said on Friday that customers demanded the company to release lower-end lower-power AMD Phenom microprocessors instead of higher performance AMD Phenom 9700 and 9900 central processing units. The world’s largest x86 chip manufacturer did not unveil whether its customers did not want to get higher-speed Phenom chips, or the company had to delay the release of its higher-speed chips, or it could not get the new steppings of chips in time.
“We are shipping hundreds of thousands of AMD Phenoms, we added EE Phenoms to Q1, we are still shipping triple-core in Q1, and our highest volume Phenom parts are in market right now. This change is viewed favorably by the OEMs who really wanted those EE and triple core parts,” said Chris Hook, a spokesperson for AMD.
Earlier AMD confirmed that it would postpone the release of its chips based on new-generation micro-architecture and implemented in B3 stepping to Q2 2007. Earlier it was reported based on unofficial information that AMD will be able to offer quad-core Phenom 9100e chip (1.80GHz) as well as triple-core Phenom 8600 and 8400 – which are all based on the B2 stepping with TLB errata –commercially in March, 2008.
AMD could not identify its customers demanding lower-end versions of AMD Phenom during a brief interview and also did not reveal whether it had issues with B3 stepping wafer starts in Q1 2007.
Comments currently: 34
Discussion started: 01/12/08 06:56:47 PM
Latest comment: 01/18/08 01:39:10 AM
Expand all threads |
Collapse all threads
[1-14]
1.
The world’s largest x86 chip manufacturer???
[Posted by: Me | Date: 01/12/08 06:56:47 PM]
2.
"The world’s largest x86 chip manufacturer did not unveil whether its customers did not want to get higher-speed Phenom chips, or the company had to delay the release of its higher-speed chips, or it could not get the new steppings of chips in time."
Do you believe "AMD is the world's largest x86 chip manufacturer" or did you just make up that factoid?
[Posted by: Anton, please check your facts | Date: 01/12/08 09:46:23 PM]
3.
Costumers not demanding higher speed phenoms because AMD simply can't deliver them.
[Posted by: Mr. BonBon | Date: 01/12/08 10:27:49 PM]
4.
It's only a typo, give him a break.
[Posted by: RtFusion | Date: 01/12/08 11:03:23 PM]
+ expand thread (2 answers)
- collapse thread
Only a typo? "The world’s largest x86 chip manufacturer" is nopt a typo, it's a whole wrong sentence. A typo would be a misspelled word, not a whole wrong sentence.
But I do wonder how this sentence ended up in this PR. I can't imagine AMD claiming to be "The world’s largest x86 chip manufacturer".
Maybe the typo you're talking about is a missing word and the original sentence was "The world’s largest *disappointing* x86 chip manufacturer"??? :)
[Posted by: eltoro | Date: 01/15/08 12:53:40 AM]
I think the intended sentence was "The worlds SECOND largest x86 chip manufacturer."
get over it.
[Posted by: McKnight | Date: 01/16/08 09:20:02 PM]
5.
What customers?
You mean billy, and bob over there? lol?
What, did they do a survey? AMD should not even bother saying crap like this if they won't identify what customers, and how many they are speaking of lol.
[Posted by: gamebro | Date: 01/12/08 11:32:01 PM]
6.
So customers, that may also own AMD stocks, wanted AMD to look like utter idiots?
Thats the best theory Ive ever heard.
[Posted by: 1234 | Date: 01/13/08 02:05:23 AM]
7.
AMD is far from the largest chipmaker!
Intel make more processors than AMD and Intel also make more graphics processors anyone.
[Posted by: ehwhat? | Date: 01/13/08 03:45:39 AM]
8.
Missing the fact that the Phenom 2.3 gigs already OCs to 2.8-2.9 gigs, AND priced at $239. Compare that with the Intel Q6700 2.6 gig that cannot be OCd and priced at $550. Point is that AMD already has their higher frequency part for DIYers.
[Posted by: truthseeker33 | Date: 01/13/08 06:03:25 AM]
+ expand thread (16 answers)
- collapse thread
Not sure why you think the Q6700 cannot overclock.
???
[Posted by: boner | Date: 01/13/08 06:55:49 AM]
It's real simple. Phenom black edition has an unlocked CPU frequency multiplier, the Q6700 does not. The only way to overclock a Q6700 system is to overclock the mobo (FSB). The CPU frequency multiplier is locked. Yeah, you can also overclock thge mobo on the black edition, too. Intel ONLY unlocks the frequency multiplier on the Extreme Editions. The cheapest Core 2 Extreme with an unlocked frequency multiplier on newegg.com right now is $975.
[Posted by: truthseeker33 | Date: 01/13/08 08:46:58 AM]
So says the AMD fanboy...
Time for you to read this article => http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/intel-wolfdale html
It's a good thing that AMD knows what their customers want. But without any competitive chip on the market, there won't be much customers.
[Posted by: AnnThraXX | Date: 01/13/08 10:25:21 AM]
E8500 is a dual core, not quad core. This conversation is about quad core. "Duo" means 2 cores and "quad" means 4 cores. They teach that in 8th grade English classes. You will get there, don't worry.
[Posted by: truthseeker33 | Date: 01/13/08 11:09:29 AM]
You're full of crap fanboy! I'm just selling crappy Phenoms!
Yours trullly...
AMD
[Posted by: Always Making Delays | Date: 01/13/08 10:55:59 PM]
Unlock multiplier CPU allows you to overclock it on ANY motherboard.
Locked multiplier CPU only allows overclock based on motherboard CAPABILITIES.
[Posted by: Joker | Date: 01/14/08 05:41:43 AM]
Baised...? And you can't compare the AMD Quad cores to the cheaper Q6600? And you're claiming they can't overclock... why? Wow. Nice response.
[Posted by: MonkRX | Date: 01/13/08 08:23:59 AM]
Truthseeker33----
You win the dumba$$ post of the year award.
Most people easily and with little effort, or 3rd party cooling parts, can get a 3.2ghz OC on the Q6600. You don't need a fully unlocked multiplier genius..... Phenoms black edition is crap compared to the Q6600, and the Q6600 is worth the $40 price difference as it performs much better at stock, and even more so overclocked.
That is common knowledge on most boards, so don't try to fool us! We know better. Your piece of crap $239 phenom chip gets owned by the lowest end intel quad the Q6600.
Please truthseeker..... Just don't post again ok? Not until you learn what intel chips can do, before you sputter out nonsense of what they can't.... You don't know jack.
[Posted by: gamebro | Date: 01/13/08 10:55:33 AM]
Get your glasses fixed, or get your mommy to help you out if you aren't old enough. First, I said the Q6700, but if you want to talk about the Q6600, it gets owned by the Phenom black edition too. Forcing to overclock the mobo vesus just the F multiplier is just dumb. Heat up the chipset and the entire system. That's real smart when all you need to do is tweek the CPU FM. Duh!
[Posted by: truthseeker33 | Date: 01/13/08 11:03:59 AM]
Most intel boards hit 450-500 on their FSB without a sweat, so whats all the fuss about? Yea, overclocking a chip through multiplying is easier, but the only reason AMD is offering unlocked CPU's is to sell them off. Besides most people hit around 2.5~2.6 on their max phenom overclock, where as a Q6600 can "easily" overclock to 3.0 GHz and destroy anything AMD offers. Also, overclocking the mb = faster FSB + faster RAM = better performance.
[Posted by: Mr. BonBon | Date: 01/13/08 11:24:37 AM]
I dont care either way, but I have my Q6600 OC to 3 Ghz with only raising the FSB on a 170 dollar abit p35 pro board and a tuniq tower. All my System temps are under 40 c and CPU load is 44 C.
I am a very conservative over clocker, but to say that these cannot OC is just retarded. To say it is not easy is just plain dumb. All I did was bump up my FSB and that was it. To say it stresses the system, well it stresses it more than at stock. However, at the temperatures I get it is not going to shorten the life anymore than running a cheaper board (non solid caps) with stock cooling.
I like that AMD is creating competition and coming out with cheaper options. In fact I'm rooting for them so that prices stay competitive. But honestly keep AMD fan boy thoughts to yourself. All you do is sound like a 17 year old that doesn't know much about anything.
Not once have you brought any facts to the table.
[Posted by: Jack | Date: 01/13/08 12:55:23 PM]
Who cares if the Black Edition overclocks more than an Intel chip? The Intel chip is still "faster".
[Posted by: URNAss | Date: 01/13/08 02:37:45 PM]
so, you'll just get the phenom because you don't want to raise your FSB?! well suit yourself .. weirdo
but for your information, my Q6600 hit 3.4Ghz with stock cooler and i didn't raise any chipset voltages at all on my low end ga-p31-ds3l motherboard.
what does amd have in hands RIGHT NOW to offer consumers to provide competing performance to my current system within the same price range?! NOTHING is the answer.
locked OR unlocked multiplier, AMD fails to deliver anything close to my current system performance.
[Posted by: you must be out of your mind | Date: 01/13/08 06:23:58 PM]
you're full of crap!!
[Posted by: BLEEPers | Date: 01/13/08 10:53:48 PM]
My Core 2 Quad Q6600 stock speed is 2.4ghz. I have had it oc'ed to 3.1ghz and it's under volted and 100% stable. Apparently you are either an AMD fanboy or completely uniformed. Phenom is a failure and I doubt AMD will make it through 2008. Goodbye to low costing processors! >:(
[Posted by: Lion of Zion | Date: 01/13/08 11:10:13 PM]
Hmmm, how many wrong claims in one post.
I OC a Q6600 to 3.2GHz (rock solid and reliable after 24 hours of ORTHOS testing) with an Asus P5B mobo ($99.99 on NewEgg).
Does AMD have any answer to this cheap combination???
Who the f**k cares how do I reach this OC, multiplier or FSB, when it's rock stable???????
Only a mind numb fanboy would cling to such LAME excuses.
But please don't allow me to confuse you with the facts...go ahead and buy your "nice" (as one AMD fanboy on this site called AMD CPUs) AMD Phenom. Performance doesn't matter as long as you're blissfully happy with your new gift to mankind from your god AMD.
[Posted by: eltoro | Date: 01/15/08 01:03:22 AM]
9.
I use AMD energy efficient stuff (currently 62 watt 3400+ AM2 sempron), you wastrel "0v3rc10ck3r" n00bz
C00l N Qu13+ FTMFW!!!!111
[Posted by: F**ck y'all | Date: 01/15/08 02:31:11 AM]
10.
Always fun to read fanboy responses now and then.
[Posted by: WOW!! | Date: 01/15/08 03:15:03 AM]
11.
"The world’s largest x86 chip manufacturer did not unveil whether its customers did not want to get higher-speed Phenom chips, or the company had to delay the release of its higher-speed chips, or it could not get the new steppings of chips in time."
and VIA makes the best motherboard chipsets on earth?
[Posted by: tof | Date: 01/15/08 05:18:46 AM]
12.
Why are you so agravated? ;) Think at that: An AMD proc + motherboard is 40% cheaper than an Intel proc + mobo. There's your answer.
[Posted by: TAViX | Date: 01/15/08 04:20:02 PM]
+ expand thread (1 answer)
13.
Lets get real here. Anyone who pays for a new computer today or even upgrade would love to get a high-end Phenom at a reasonable price. AMD seems incapable of delivering these high-end processor for some reason or another. It not the customers demands for lower end CPUs as AMD allege.
There's even no solid roadmap AMD has. Disparate press releases from different sources that keep distracting computing communities and AMD fans.
I believe the AMD has a big challenge to overcome, that is to execute and meet the expectations of its shareholders and technical communities.
And to accomplish that, a major management overhaul is required; Hector has to go.
Lets hope AMD get well soon.
[Posted by: Jack | Date: 01/16/08 02:07:45 PM]
+ expand thread (1 answer)
- collapse thread
Phenom processors are a joke for 80x86 processors. I strongly recommend do not buy them. Invest money in K8 processors instead of K10 processors. K10 processors or Phenom has a TLB bug which should not have happened at all.
No company has a solid road map for the future. They just provide it to people to give them an idea where they are going. Intel had similar period of time that they did not have solid road map. Again no company has a solid road map. Really roads are meant to be changed.
I agree that Hector have to go or change his priorities. It is nice that his dreams of providing computers to third world countries, but he needs to put them on pause or slow them down to get AMD back up.
I prefer to use multi-core Sempron processor that is K8 based because I look at email, documents, spreadsheets, presentations, database, web page development, and browsing the web on a daily basis. All this does not need a fast processor. I just need an energy efficient multi-processor that does not produce a lot of heat.
[Posted by: linuxnerd | Date: 01/17/08 01:03:35 PM]
14.
"The world’s largest x86 chip manufacturer did not unveil whether its customers did not want to get higher-speed Phenom chips, or the company had to delay the release of its higher-speed chips, or it could not get the new steppings of chips in time."
I thought Intel was the biggest...
[Posted by: tornadoro | Date: 01/18/08 01:39:10 AM]
[1-14]
You must log in to add comments.
Unfortunately, the old registrations do not work anymore. Please register again. We apologize for the inconvenience.
Forgot password? Registration
Make Home Page
Add to Favorites
Print article
Send link to friend
Digg this
Post to del.icio.us
Post to Slashdot
