Toshiba plans to start selling super up-conversion DVD players later this year, a report from the Japanese media claims. The new players are projected to enable nearly high-definition video quality from conventional DVD players, which is likely to slowdown adoption of the Blu-ray disc format.
The Yomiuri Shimbun news-paper claims that super up-conversion DVD player from Toshiba will be available by the end of the year, however, no actual details are present. Earlier this year it transpired that Sharp and Toshiba have developed a technology that allows increasing DVD resolution (720x480 [NTSC] or 720x576 [PAL]) to 960p resolution (1702x960 or 1440x960), which should provide nearly full-HD quality, 1080p (1920x1080) as on Blu-ray disc, but without any need for a new type of media.
After quitting the high-definition video format war by canceling to support its HD DVD standard in February, Toshiba said it had no plans to manufacture players compatible with Sony-developed Blu-ray disc format.
Even though super up-conversion DVD sounds impressive, as it allows to boost image quality of existing movie collections, a technology that is available only from Toshiba DVD players may not become wide-spread and the market will continue migration to Blu-ray disc, which provides other benefits over DVD in addition to higher resolution.
Toshiba did not comment on the news-story.
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Tell it to the videophiles.
Can't make something out of nothing.
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Posted by: boner
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Date: 06/01/08 12:39:04 PM]
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Indeed, actual HD sources come from masters and offer extreme detail...
You can't take a standard DVD resolution file and upscale with sufficient results. Compare it to a actual HD movie and you'll see the difference..
This is a complete marketing gimmick if you ask me.
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Posted by: Ikasu
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Date: 06/01/08 02:32:01 PM]
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What Toshiba's trying to sell is the Super Upconversion DVD player. Actually, the term "Super Upconversion" is misleading as the actual tech involved is real-time Super-Resolution which creates 960p native out of 480p source video by computationally fusing 9 frames back and forth. This is the same technique used by NASA, CIA, and US military for decades, but CELL's computational power has made it possible to do it on video.
So what you are looking at is 960p Super Resolution vs 1080p Blu-Ray.
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Posted by: Deadmeat
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Date: 06/01/08 08:51:21 PM]
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Actually, most so called "1080p upscaling" DVD player produce more blur image compare to 480i/p output.
Most of the silly internal algorithm, include those inside Toshiva HD-DVD players, just remove the aliazing of DVD by blurring the image @ 1080p only.
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Posted by: Just a silly re-branding of \
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Date: 06/02/08 01:02:25 AM]
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Another joke from Toshiba to fool consumers after HD-DVD!
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Posted by: Just a silly re-branding of Upscaling
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Date: 06/02/08 01:03:11 AM]
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I found a fair comparison between DVD Upscalling and HD Video at the Firingsquad's website.
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_purevideo_hd_previ ew/page5.asp
The bottom line is that the upscalled images are blurry, but it doesn't detract from the film so much that you would stop watching. Upscalled DVD's certainly are a better deal than spending $10 extra per disc and $500 for a new Blu-Ray DVD Player.
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Date: 06/02/08 09:34:28 PM]
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Don't joke me! In the review they use 1080i HD-DVD as HD video source. According to the recommendation from European Broadcasting Union, 1080i HD-DVD is even worse than 720p AVC-HD and BluRay. The I->P conversion already upgraded the video quality a lot!
It is completely a biased review. I wonder why they don't use 50Mbps 1080p BluRay as source for the comparsion!
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Posted by: 1080i from HD-DVD
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Date: 06/03/08 01:28:36 AM]
you idiot... all hd-dvd's are encoded at 1080p24 just like bluray... maybe read up on some shit before making yourself out to be a fucking idiot... 24fps with pulldown to 29.97fps is not 1080i ...
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Posted by: THX...
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Date: 06/03/08 08:57:02 AM]
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Who tells u all HD-DVD is encoded @ 1080p24?
Actually the HD-DVD and BluRay format can be encoded at even 720p.
Notice that many early HD-DVD and BluRay releases encoded at 1080i60 only. Also, most music concert HD-DVD and BluRay 1080i60 or 1080p60.
Only firm based contents is able to encoded ar 1080p24.
Also, pls who open ur eyes and double check the review canidates in site link:
NVIDIA provided the following HD-DVDs to test:
SwordFish (~20 Mbps VC-1, 1080p24)
Virtual Trip: Yozakura (~26 Mbps H.264, 1080i30)
True Blue (~15 Mbps H.264, 1080i30)
Still have anything to say, True idoit?
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Posted by: Real idiot is you
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Date: 06/04/08 06:30:06 AM]
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The fact is that:
1. None of the HD-DVD reviewed is latest production.
2. BluRay contents start to show off their true quality potential just right after release of 2nd half of 2007 only when dual layer BluRay release started on the shelfs.
3. Most latest BluRay releases offer 40+Mbps bitrate, a holy blown to proofen technical inferior HD-DVD format. Frankly speaking many AV fan started to notice the great difference between HD-DVD and BluRay after 2nd half of 2007!
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Date: 06/04/08 06:35:36 AM]
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its not all bitrate numbnuts... have you seen king kong on hd-dvd??? no didnt think so, its still one of THE reference encodes out there, and it didnt need 40+ mbps to do it... AVC and VC1 doesnt need 40+, as you wouldnt see any difference after about 28mbps unless you use a frigging microscope.... am i dont watch my movies through one... 40+ mpeg2 encodes still use mpeg2 tech which isnt good enough... bluray still use mpeg2 on recent releases! what a crock of shit...
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